Samuel G. Suddarth to Thomas E. Bramlette

Accession Number

KYR-0001-003-0106

Document Genre

Correspondence

Repository

Kentucky Department for Libraries and Archives

Collection

Office of the Governor, Thomas E. Bramlette: Governor's Official Correspondence File, Military Correspondence, 1863-1867

Item Location

BR5-176 to BR5-181

Place of Creation

Frankfort, Franklin County, Kentucky

Date of Creation

20 April 1865

Dates Mentioned

1865-04-20

Samuel G. Suddarth to Thomas E. Bramlette, 20 April 1865, Office of the Governor, Thomas E. Bramlette: Governor's Official Correspondence File, Military Correspondence, 1863-1867, BR5-176 to BR5-181, Kentucky Department for Libraries and Archives, Frankfort, KY. Accessed via the Civil War Governors of Kentucky Digital Documentary Edition, discovery.civilwargovernors.org/document/KYR-0001-003-0106, (accessed December 22, 2024).

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STATE OF KENTUCKY.

Office of Quarter-Master General,
Frankfort, Ky., April 20, 1865.
To His Excellency
T. E Bramlette
Governor of Ky.

The accompanying correspondence upon the subject of the conditions of the papers referring to the accounts between the State of Ky and the United States, having been referred to this office, is now respectfully returned, with the following remarks -- viz --

I am, of course, unable to speak of the present conditions of the papers forwarded to Washington from this office. Those sent forward once I have had the honor to preside over this Department even prepared exactly as those had been, which were sent forward by my pre-desessors -- They, the papers, were arranged and "classified" and "abstracted", according to the manner, understood to be acceptable and necessary at Washington.

The first portion of this settlement, & as I understand, the only portion yet examined, required no "classification" nor "abstracting", for the reason that they were memorandum pay rolls, are im

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-perfect in form -- but the difficutly is of such a character that it cannot be remedied at Washington or elsewhere, unless the parties signing the originals, could be found to sign new and regular rolls -- For a more explicit statement of this matter I refer Your Excellency to the extract from my last Report, herewith accompanying --

In regard to the difficulties in the way of settling the State accounts for Quarter Master Stores &^c &^c I understand from the accompanying correspondence, that the 3d Auditor requires formal returns, the same as a Quarter Master in the Regular Army would make to the Chief at Washington -- this I understand is the meaning of "Abstracts" and classifications. To a limited extent this could be done, but, as Your Excellency well knows, during the earlier periods of the War every thing connected with Military matters was done in haste, and regardless of form or regulations, consequently there is no data upon which

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to base such a report, as seems to be required.

It may be that I am not advised of the proper requirements made by the 3r^d Auditor -- and that Washington is the proper place to rearrange these papers -- if so -- the originals of many, and duplicates of all the papers in Washington are in my Office, and any arrangement different from the present form, should have a corresponding copy on file in the State Military Department -- but -- if I understand what is required to make this settlement presentable to the Auditing Officer at Washington, I am clearly of opinion that the operation should be performed at the point where is collected all the historical records of the War, & all the Auxilliary papers considered with the Settlement, for if any thing is wanting to complete the record at Washington, it must be obtained through this office --

Still, I am not prepared to say that nothing could be done at Washington,

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to facilitate the settlement, how much the settlement could be facilitated there, or the clerical force necessary to accomplish what can be done, is not within my power to state. Since the first papers were sent to Washington there has been a change in the incumbancy of the 3rd Auditorship, & the views of the present officer in that Department may differ from those of his predecessor. The latter named officer, made no objection to the form of the accounts, but to the substance, and as far as possible his suggestion as to the delinquencies, were promptly adopted and the required evidence supplied. this, no doubt was the result of an understanding with the Secretary of War, that the Government at Washington, in its settlements with the States, for advancements for War purposes, would make an "equitable" settlement, without requiring regulation forms --

If the Washington agency of the State of

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Kentucky can prepare this settlement, in a manner more satisfactory to the 3r^d Aud. & thereby facilitate the transaction to a more speedy close, than can this Department, there is where the work should be done, but, as before remarked, as at present advised, I cannot see what greater facilities can be had at Washington than at Frankfort, unless the immediate presents of the Agent, will enable him to learn from time to time what may be wanting; if facts, they must come from here -- if change of arrangements it may be done there, but this office at the same time, must be advised of any change in such arrangment, that the files of this Department may correspond with those at Washington, in which event my clerical force must be increased in proportion as the labors of my office are increased; as the same amount of labor done at Washington, must be repeated

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here in order to preserve a perfect record.

I have the honor to be
Very Respty
Your Obdt Svt
S, G, Suddarth
Q. M. Gen^l of Ky

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STATE OF KENTUCKY.

Office of Quarter-Master General,
Frankfort, Ky., April 20, 1865.
To His Excellency
T. E Bramlette
Governor of Ky.

The accompanying correspondence upon the subject of the conditions of the papers referring to the accounts between the State of Ky and the United States having been referred to this office, is now respectfully returned, with the following remarks -- viz --

I am, of course, unable to speak of the present conditions of the papers forwarded to Washington from this office. Those sent forward once I have had the honor to preside over this Department even prepared exactly as those had been, which were sent forward by my predesessors -- They, the papers, were arranged and "classified" and "abstracted", according to the manner, understood to be acceptable and necessary at Washington.

The first portion of this settlement, & as I understand, the only portion yet examined, required no "classification" nor "abstracting", for the reason that they were memorandum pay rolls, an im
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< STATE OF KENTUCKY.

Office of Quarter-Master General,
Frankfort, Ky., [ ], 186[ ]. >
-perfect in form -- but the difficutly is of such a character that it cannot be remedied at Washington or Elsewhere, unless the parties signing the originals, could be found to sign new and regular rolls. For a more explicit statement of this matter I refer Your Excellency to the extract from my last Report, herewith accompanying --

In regard to the difficulties in the way of settling the State accounts for Quarter Master Stores &^c &^c I understand from the accompanying correspondence that the 3^d Auditor requires formal returns, the same as a Quarter Master in the Regular Army would make to the Chief at Washington -- this I understand is the meaning of "Abstracts" and classifications. To a limited extent this could be done, but, as Your Excellency well knows, during the earlier period of the War every thing connected with Military matters was done in haste, and regardless of form or regulations, consequently there is no data upon which
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< STATE OF KENTUCKY.

Office of Quarter-Master General,
Frankfort, Ky., [ ], 186[ ]. >
to base such a report as seems to be required.

It may be that I am not advised of the proper requirements made by the 3r^d Auditor -- and that Washington is the proper place to rearrange these papers -- if so -- the originals of many, and duplicates of all the papers in Washington are in my office, and any arrangement different from the present form, should have a corresponding copy on file in the State Military Department -- but -- if I understand what is required to make this settlement present able to the Auditing Officer at Washington, I am clearly of opinion that the operation should be performed at the point where is collected all the historical records of the War & all the Auxilliary papers considered with the Settlement, for if any thing is wanting to complete the record at Washington, it must be obtained through this office --

Still, I am not prepared to say that nothing could be done at Washington,
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< STATE OF KENTUCKY.

Office of Quarter-Master General,
Frankfort, Ky., [ ], 186[ ]. >
to facilitate the settlement, how much the settlement could be facilitated there, or the clerical force necessary to accomplish what can be done, is not within my power to state. Since the first papers were sent to Washington there has been a change in the incumbancy of the 3rd Auditorship, & the views of the present officer in that Department may differ from those of his pre decessor. The latter named officer, made no objection to the form of the accounts, but to the substance, and as far as possible this suggestion as to the delinquencies, were promptly adopted and the required evidence supplied. this, no doubt was the result of an understanding with the Secretary of War, that the Government at Washington, in its settlements with the States, for advancements for War purposes, would make an "equitable" settlement, without requiring regulation forms --

If the Washington agency of the State of
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< STATE OF KENTUCKY.

Office of Quarter-Master General,
Frankfort, Ky., [ ], 186[ ]. >
Kentucky can prepare this settlement, in a manner more satisfactory to the 3r^d Aud. & thereby facilitate the transaction to a more speedy close, than can this Department, there is where the work should be done, but, as before remarked, as at present advised, I cannot see what greater facilities can be had at Washington than at Frankfort, unless the immediate process of the agent, will enable him to learn from time to time what may be wanting; if facts, they must come from here -- if change of arrangements it may be done there, but this office at the same time, must be advised of any change in such arrangment, that the files of this Department may correspond with those at Washington, in which event my clerical force must be increased in proportion as the labors of my office are increased; as the same amount of labor done at Washington, must be repeated
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< STATE OF KENTUCKY.

Office of Quarter-Master General,
Frankfort, Ky., [ ], 186[ ]. >
here in order to preserve a perfect record.

I have the honor to be
Very Resply
Your Obdt Svt
S. G. Suddarth
Q. M Gen^l of Ky

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